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Offline Gianaryn

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Anyone here ever read any Guy Gavriel Kay?
« on: July 12, 2008, 02:17:16 AM »
I started reading his stuff a while back and I was totally blown away. I've read the Fionovar Tapestry trilogy, Tigana (my most treasured book) and Song for Arbonne. Anyone else here know what I'm talking about?

Although his prose takes some getting used to as it tends to be very flowery and embellished, it is WELL worth the effort, or at least it was for me. The Tapestry and Tigana are two of the works I list as those that changed my view of the world forever after and changed the person I am, and Tigana is my most prized posession in terms of books.

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Anyone here ever read any Guy Gavriel Kay?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 12:36:55 PM »
Yes, Kay is very good. I'd highly suggest The Lions of Al-Rassan, too, if you haven't read it.

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2008, 01:51:28 PM »
I'll definately try and get that, I saw recently that there's a whole slew of books by him that isn't available in our library yet (yes it's sad, but that's where my primary reading material comes from, books are expensive here!)

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Re: Anyone here ever read any Guy Gavriel Kay?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2008, 07:14:37 PM »
I've read tigana, I thought it was fairly good, but nothing especially incredible the way I'd been hearing. I was enjoying it anyways however up until one particular event(I don't want to spoil it) near the end..actually, two now that i think of it....that completely killed it for me. I felt it was a total cop-out on the author's part and the story lost me from there.

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Re: Anyone here ever read any Guy Gavriel Kay?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 02:30:29 AM »
Ooh, now I'm all curiosity! If you don't want to post the events here, PM me, because I'm DYING to know what they are!

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Re: Anyone here ever read any Guy Gavriel Kay?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 07:41:13 AM »
Alright, well then:

*spoiler alert* if you haven't read the book and don't want to be spoiled, stop reading!

ok..it's been a while now so I'm a little sketchy on the details. the main thing that bothered me was when catriana goes to the governors place in Senzio  pretending to be a prostitute(i can't remember why anymore - to assassinate him i think?) and she has to jump out the window to escape, and somehow what's-his-name saves her. The whole thing felt contrived to me, like she shouldn't have been able to survive it. The right character just happened to be there for her in time when no one had known where she went. I felt the entire thing would have been more effective if she had died.

The second event that bothered me was when Dianora went through that ritual about diving into the water after the ring....the entire thing before forshadows that she's going to drown, every character seems to think that she has no chance of surviving it, but she does. It felt a little forced to me again, but it bothered me less than the other event i described. Basically, I felt that the author was putting his characters into impossible situations and then they survive only because he wants them to survive and not because there's a reasonable chance that they *would* survive. Especially with catriana being saved by such(in my opinion) a contrived event. It felt like the author was too reluctant to let any of his good guys die. In fact, as far as i can recall, none of them do.

anyways, that was my main problem, it's been a while since i read it, so hopefully I'm making sense here *l*

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 09:07:17 AM »
That sounds like my biggest complaint about Fionavar: that so much happens because of Fate and Destiny and the Gods that it doesn't seem like the characters (especially the main five) have any say whatsoever. Like you could have picked any five people on the planet and the book would still wind up exactly the same. The entire thing is one big Deus Ex Machina.

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 09:11:30 AM »
Oddly enough, I don't feel he does that in Lions of Al-Rassan.

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 09:57:27 AM »
Quote from: "Genia";p="2859"

Oddly enough, I don't feel he does that in Lions of Al-Rassan.

Lions is much better than Fionavar, in my opinion. Part of what makes it so good is how strong each of the characters are and just how well written. Fionavar may have been meant to have the poetic nature of medieval literature, but Lions has the great characterization of Shakespeare.