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Offline JamesReed

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« on: May 29, 2008, 08:18:46 AM »
Just a few words on my two favorite creatures of the night. Vampires and werewolves are so cool. I like each of them for their positives and negatives. The vampire may be more refined while the lycan is a beast but some vampires can be just as animalistic as the lycans. Now as to why i like them both and could never decide if i wanted to be one or the other. Vampires live alot longer then lycans but some times even lycans can be long lived. Vampires may be able to blend into human society but so can lycans as long as there is not a full moon out. Vampires may be more evil at least to human standards than your lycan because they can not control themselves in their transformed state. Vampires just need blood to survive though some go after humans for the thrill of the kill while others some times end up being an anit-hero or better yet a champion of the light. Like my favorite vampire with a soul, Angel. Vampires dont have any of their human weaknesses. They can take way more damage and have enhanced senses. They can jump higher, runner faster and longer. They dont need to breath so they dont get winded. They can't drown. They are immune to extreme cold and heat but they are weak against fire. They cant eat garlic...well i am not sure on that one. Its up to the writer about that one. They can not touch holy objects of the christian religion. Most importanly they can not set foot in the daylight. They are after all a creature of the night and can not walk out among the living during the day. That too is up to the writer as they can come up with day walkers if they so choose it. Vampires range from the most noble to the most wicked of beings. One more thing if their heart, or head is seperated from their body they are dead. Vampires are not simple the evil creatures that lurk the darkness as some stories tell them to be. They are as complex as any human being except they are not bound by human limitations. They seem to be a very sensual sort of being since not all of them just attack and feed they seduce their prey into dropping their guard before they attack. That is what makes the vampire different from the lycan. They do not just attack and kill their prey they somes seduce or just toy with their victims before attacking. Then again if they see some quality in a human they may decide to add to the ranks and bring that human into the fold as a fellow vampire or maybe after years of lonely travel that vampire only wishes to have a companion to have at their side to talk to and converse with to help pass the time. Lycans do have increased senses and abilities but they can walk in the light. They range as do all humans from virtuous to evil. ^_^ cant decide which one i like the most.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 04:19:02 PM »
Well, you are referring to what pop culture has turned Vampires into. The actual lore of Vampires is far different then what they are portrayed today. There were no daywalkers in it, no hero vamps with souls or anything like those crapfest movies Underworld. The only reason to watch Underworld is to watch Kate Beckinsdale run around in skin tight leather. You want to know a woman who can pull off a Lanfear, she'd be on top of my list.

Like most things touched by pop culture the lore is a lot darker then what they turned it into. Vampires these days, imo, aren't all that entertaining. They're either complete psychos like in 30 Days of Night or they are a Emo Vamp rip off from Anne Rice.

Werewolves on the other hand, Hollywood hasn't really touched on them a lot. Well, when compared to vampires. Imo, they aren't as interesting or menacing. They only come out during a full moon and person who becomes the werewolf is basically a Bruce Banner type character once every 28 days. That's probably why Underworld introduced the idea that Werewolves can learn to control the change and change whenever they want. Makes the person far more menacing and evil/good, instead of them being the poor sap who gets smoked at the end of the movie.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 07:59:26 AM »
The vampires i like may not be what the roots are but I am also talking about the vampires from anime and manga as well. Every one has their own interpretations of the vampire and I could care less if it is touched by popular media because I like those interpertations of them. The lore in my mind is only something to build off of to create your own versions of them. At least that is what i think.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 12:31:55 PM »
Don't take it as an attack on you. I just prefer the older Vampires compared to what is coming out now.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 12:35:19 PM »
>> is that how i am coming off as???? Maybe i should think about how i word things.... Any ways you have your prefences and I have mine. ^_^ my two favorite vampire shows are Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 12:39:10 PM »
Kind of, but it was also partially me thinking I might have come a crossed as attacking you in my post after re-reading it. It's easy to get signals crossed online.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 12:41:49 PM »
True true any ways, some times its better to stick to the lore because its more grounded then making it up and just taking small bits and pieces that suite your needs.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 10:16:37 PM »
when u guys say "lore"...are you refering to bram stoker's novel, Dracula? i haven't read it...so im not sure wat ur talking about...interested in learning more, though.:)
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 12:11:28 AM »
Honestly, I just can't stand vampires or werewolves as they're portrayed lately.

I liked back when they were monsters, plain and simple.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 07:40:04 AM »
Werewolves are not just simply monsters. Yes they turn into monsters when they see a full moon but you have to consider this. During the day they are human beings just like every one else. They are an unfortunate lot since they can not control themselves when in the werewolf state.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 10:05:25 AM »
Quote from: "eldrene_sedai";p="2469"

when u guys say "lore"...are you refering to bram stoker's novel, Dracula? i haven't read it...so im not sure wat ur talking about...interested in learning more, though.:)


The legends of Vampires predate Bram Stoker's Dracula. However Dracula has been a huge influence on how vampires are seen today. They have evolved beyond that though, Blade, Angel and Anne Rice's Vampires to some degree aren't exactly from that mold.

Vampires of folklore are more like Nosferatu them Dracula.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 09:52:02 PM »
i see...vampire folklore seems darker to me, more real...which is the point, i guess...looks like the modern day vampire turned into a superhero. where i live, lores about creatures closely related to vampires are...*ilk* ...disgusting...
can't ever imagine them looking like kate beckingsale...:)
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 11:25:57 PM »
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i see...vampire folklore seems darker to me, more real...which is the point, i guess...looks like the modern day vampire turned into a superhero. where i live, lores about creatures closely related to vampires are...*ilk* ...disgusting...
can't ever imagine them looking like kate beckingsale...:)


Or having souls like David Boreanaz. *l*
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 07:42:54 AM »
>> Angel is one of my favorite TV shows of all time....i still have to buy the rest of the series...as for Buffy well i already have every single season an i love every single episode of the show.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 12:52:23 PM »
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>> Angel is one of my favorite TV shows of all time....i still have to buy the rest of the series...as for Buffy well i already have every single season an i love every single episode of the show.


*g* I was just busting your balls cause I knew you said that earlier. I enjoyed the show in it's hayday.
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